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Mveloem and the Phong
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Combat_Wombat
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Joined: Nov 04, 2003
Location: Minnesota

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should hit one of their colonies not the one that just got a shitload of troops landed on it, also the colony we had in there really sucked anyway.

Co-Lead of the FrEee project an open-source Space Empires IV clone

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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Combat_Wombat wrote:
You should hit one of their colonies not the one that just got a shitload of troops landed on it, also the colony we had in there really sucked anyway.


A very good point and suggestion.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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awolf
Space Emperor


Joined: Nov 06, 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm, once again, having to re-install everything again last weekend. Dont ask lol...Just love vista...bout ready to find my old xp cd and re-install XP. Kana be so good and take good care of 2nd flot...I still dont know if I'm back alive and no word on re-building of avatar is complete?
Also will ned a new flagship? guess ol slugger kinda went boom in the attack...

Cdr Awolf


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have been reborn at Ochre VI if I remember correctly, and a new flagship is in route Commander Awolf.

This comming month seems like a good time to have our fleets move to attack the MFD.

I will be sending orders for the 41st BatRon to attack the Phong fleet in Mveloem. I will also send orders for Awolf as well in case he hasn't got his PC up and running yet. All others please consider your orders accordingly. With any luck we will all arrive together and squash the MFD.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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awolf
Space Emperor


Joined: Nov 06, 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have game and mod installed. now waiting to have "key" sent so game will run, hopefully soon.

awolf


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awolf
Space Emperor


Joined: Nov 06, 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

got new key, but doesnt like it..."not valid"...

awolf


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Alikiwi
Space Emperor


Joined: May 09, 2007
Location: Tasmania

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm, shouldn't one write down these 'keys' so you always have it just incase you have to do a re-install? You're not the first person to have that problem. Luckily I don't require one. In the meantime, hopefully the Mveloum sector might start making some progress Laughing


Venturing into the unknown


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kana wrote:
This comming month seems like a good time to have our fleets move to attack the MFD.

I will be sending orders for the 41st BatRon to attack the Phong fleet in Mveloem.


I will order the 110th Defense squadron to move. It looks like we will reach Mveloem 5,7 next month.

I will also coordinate with Dragonstar, so that the Red Fleet will move as well.


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just saw the report that the MPF has moved north. I have sent the 41st BatRon and 2nd Flotilla in pursuit.

FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Mveloem has just gotten real interesting. While our attack on the MPF went well, we have new dilema's ahead.

Who do we attack next? Do we leave our cripples to get destroyed by whoever we don't attack? Stay put and hope for the best?

These are questions that need to be answered and discussed.

Items to consider:

5 carriers and 1 destroyer headed toward and probably through the WP.

4 carriers and 2 destroyers probably headed for Mveloem IV.

5 destroyers headed who knows where.

Need to decided if the defenses on the WP can hold off the 5 carriers?

Can what we have left of our assets in Mveloem take out the 4 carriers and 2 destroyers?

Will our cripples survive? When can we send in repair ships?

If I can get the 11th PatRon supplied they could be of some use. I'll have to ditch a cripple, but the remaining 8 could do some damage if fully supplied.

I'm going to move what I have in Kartogia to the WP but I don't think they will make it in time to help.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Prophet
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Joined: Jun 13, 2006
Location: Taxachusetts

PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congratulations on the victory, everyone. The bulk of the enemy armada has been destroyed. What remains is now scattered across the system.

But you are right of course, First Space Lord. What is our next course of action? Whatever it is, we need to act in unison or risk getting picked apart by the Phong.

Dragonstar's Red Fleet is here to support the FWSN operation. We are taking our cue from you. But if asked, I would suggest an organized withdrawal to Kartogia. Offload casualties and remove damaged ships for repairs. For Red Fleet it would give us a chance to add another Dragonstar warship, the DDS Dentark. We also have another warship nearing completion on Kartogia VIII.

At the very least re-securing the WP should be a priority. The more we fight, the more damage we will take. And right now we are cut off from repairs.

That is just my assessment. Whatever the FWSN ultimately decides to do, you will have 100% Red Fleet support (that is, assuming our Bifrost patron wishes it). We are here to help you achieve your objectives. I only ask that you let us know just what will be your next course of action.


Prophet, CEO Dragonstar Industries


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Returning to Kartogia was a thought. And a good one. We may have to go through some ships to get there though. Also we may have to leave some cripples behind. I hate to leave them, and have them get beat up by any fighters that get rebuilt on Mveloem IV, or any stray Phong ship that feels it can take them.

Between Awolf and I there are at least 4-6 ships that would end up being left behind, and the remaing ships may not have alot of speed to get to the WP before something happens. I'll check exact ships and speed when I get a chance.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you both. We can't get support assets into Mveloem from Kartogia unless we can keep the WP clear of Phong ships. I think we should ditch the cripples with little movement.

Prophet wrote:
Dragonstar's Red Fleet is here to support the FWSN operation. We are taking our cue from you.


I agree with Prophet.

Kana wrote:
Need to decided if the defenses on the WP can hold off the 5 carriers?


I think it will depend on how much damage the platforms inflict on the carriers before they can launch their fighters. I'm guessing that 5 carriers will wipe out the defenses. At best, it will be an ugly win.

I'm going to run some simulations to get a better idea of the threat. I may also be able to figure out some improved platform designs.


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have completed my simulations. It seems that if the carriers launch all of their fighters, our bases will fight them to a standstill. We lose about half of our bases, and we destroy slightly over half of the enemy fighters. I assumed a Phong loadout of about 1/3 bombers, 1/3 interceptors, and 1/3 space superiority.

This simulation assumed that we did no damage to the carriers before they launched.


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Prophet
Space Emperor


Joined: Jun 13, 2006
Location: Taxachusetts

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FSL Kana,

Red Fleet has taken some damage. Our only close-quarters destroyer, the Vampire, sustained heavy damage and is crippled to Speed 2. The rest of the fleet is still in fighting condition, though only one other ship is attack-oriented. If you still wish to reconnect with the support ships in Kartogia, I can offer one of two suggestions.

One, Red Fleet can stay behind with the crippled ships. This will allow us to stay together as a unit. We can cover the crippled ships (along with any other defenders sticking around) while the Navy brings in the repair ships. This option is my preferred.

Two, we can leave the Vampire with the crippled forces and the rest can join in re-taking the warp point. If you need all the ships you can get for the coming battle, Red Fleet is willing to do its part.

Please take them under consideration and let us know.


Prophet, CEO Dragonstar Industries


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well 41st BatRon has 3 ships that can't move at all, 2 that can move at a speed of 1, and 3 others damaged that can move at full speed, but only 1 of those is combat effective.

So I could leave the 3 cripples at Mveloem IV to be killed by either fighters from the planet or any Phong ships that choose to attack.

Move the to slow cripples slowly to the WP, and hope they don't get jumped.

Move the rest of the speed 5 ships to the WP to defend and meet up with the repair ships for escort.

So I believe that I'm going to leave all damaged ships at Mveloem IV to await repair ships. This includes ships that can or can't move. That can or can't fight. I would suggest that others do the same The enemy doesn't know what is really damaged there and to them it just looks like a lot of enemy vessels, and may think twice about attacking it especially if we threaten ships on or near the WP.

Adjust your orders accordingly.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Prophet
Space Emperor


Joined: Jun 13, 2006
Location: Taxachusetts

PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sorry, but that response was incredibly confusing First Space Lord. First you discuss moving all the ships back. Then you mention leaving all the cripples behind. Are you leaving ships to defend the cripples? Do you have the ships you need for the next step?

It also does not paint a complete picture of what is going on. So you are going to leave "all damaged ships at Mveloem IV." Does that include lightly-damaged ships like the FNS Ear Cutter and FNS Numidium? And what of those ships not damaged? Shall I assume an attack on the Kartogia WP? Are you doing this alone?

Unless I hear otherwise, Red Fleet will be remaining at Mveloem IV to shield the crippled forces.


Prophet, CEO Dragonstar Industries


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be leaving behind all ships not capable of at least 5 movement. For me, that will be two ships. Mongoose 001 has no combat ability remaining, Blue Shield has one LKM launcher remaining. My remaining ships should be able to reach the WP this month, since it's 5 sectors away.

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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm moving all ships that can move a speed of 5 to the WP. All other 'crippled' ships will stay at Mveloem IV. I'm hoping that the Phone will think its a mass of good ships, and not a bunch of cripples.

FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently they chickened out. So where do we go from here?

I'm going to move up some repair ships and try and get them to Mveloem IV. I'm also moving 11th PatRon and a supply ship to Mveloem IV.

41st BatRon may consider jumping some lone ships in system if everyone thinks this is a good idea since it seems the danger to the WP has disapated.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kana wrote:
41st BatRon may consider jumping some lone ships in system if everyone thinks this is a good idea since it seems the danger to the WP has disapated.


I think that's fine. Better to hit them before they regroup. I imagine Prophet will also want to start attacking as well. As for me, I will keep the 110th Def Squadron at the WP for now, unless it's needed elsewhere.

I have started retrofitting my troop ships. I expect the first to be combat ready in about four months.


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Prophet
Space Emperor


Joined: Jun 13, 2006
Location: Taxachusetts

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am glad to see we were able to take the WP without a fight. And that we have not run into any trouble at Mveloem IV.

Kana wrote:
I'm going to move up some repair ships and try and get them to Mveloem IV.

Will you need Red Fleet's assistance in protecting the repair ships? We could attempt a rendezvous if necessary. At the very least, I offer the protective service of the DDS Dentark currently at the Kartogia-Mveloem WP.

Skyburn wrote:
I imagine Prophet will also want to start attacking as well.

I must admit that seeing the Phong so scattered makes for some tempting targets. "Ripe for the picking" as they say. But right now my main concern is getting the Vampire repaired. Red Fleet needs all the offensive weaponry it can get.


Prophet, CEO Dragonstar Industries


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Prophet
Space Emperor


Joined: Jun 13, 2006
Location: Taxachusetts

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While it does not concern Mveloem right now, I would like to point out something Phong-related to the FWSN. Dragonstar scouts have uncovered major numbers of Phong ships in the Oz system. Over 70 ships in this one system.

Thought you should be aware.


Prophet, CEO Dragonstar Industries


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Kana
Space Emperor


Joined: Jan 15, 2005

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prophet wrote:
While it does not concern Mveloem right now, I would like to point out something Phong-related to the FWSN. Dragonstar scouts have uncovered major numbers of Phong ships in the Oz system. Over 70 ships in this one system.
Thought you should be aware.


I saw this. I do hope that they are engaged with another enemy else where. I would hate to seem the make an appearance in Synth or somehow get routed to Mveloem.


FSL Kana/CNO F.W.S.N/FNS Brawler (PBC IV)


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Skyburn
Space Emperor


Joined: Mar 12, 2008

PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prophet wrote:
Dragonstar scouts have uncovered major numbers of Phong ships in the Oz system. Over 70 ships in this one system.


Guess I won't be seeing the Wizard about getting a heart anytime soon. Smile


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